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Savage #1 Race #1 Mac Jiel P11

Postby jiel » 12 Apr 2020 00:19

Mac broke Rule 11 at about t=9min of the replay. Mac did the 360 but protested me.
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Re: Savage #1 Race #1 Mac Jiel P11

Postby Shura » 12 Apr 2020 08:46

TRC 2020 04 11 JieL vs Mac
Leo Tolstoy in my years did not write this.
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Re: Savage #1 Race #1 Mac Jiel P11

Postby Mac Yavel » 12 Apr 2020 09:26

My Question, in this case i thought i cant luff more without pen for Euphoria. Maybe a few seconds before i could turn inside Euphoria but I was not sure to have enough place.
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Re: Savage #1 Race #1 Mac Jiel P11

Postby jiel » 12 Apr 2020 09:37

merci Shura. I tried to make the video with the camera following the boat ... pffff ... much work . I surrendered :).

About the incident.
Being under 11 (rule 17 was off), Mac had to keep clear, in other words, Mac must increase the distance to my boat even if I dont luff. He did the contrary when I sailed a little bit above close-hailed and until an instant when I had to bear (a little more) to not hit. To be sure, just compare the relative courses we had with the pair Eupho/Nikgre.
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Re: Savage #1 Race #1 Mac Jiel P11

Postby euphoria » 12 Apr 2020 10:40

I agree that Jiel has to give Mac room to put his bow to leeward of euphoria.
Maybe he use a little too much room, but it's not a race changer.
In any case, Jiel did not break any rule, as he did not forced contact (thank you), so Red won the race. I remove the protest tag.

But Oliver, in this situation, it's a better tactic to not volunteer to take a penalty, and instead test the situation in the protest room.
By taking a pen turn, blue has lost the race, being 2 5 6 with a big gap from boat 4 to 5...
I was 2 and leeward to Nik, so I could force him to tack, which would have made us 1 2 or 1 3.

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Re: Savage #1 Race #1 Mac Jiel P11

Postby Mac Yavel » 12 Apr 2020 10:53

I accept the decision. I take note of the possibility of not making the penalty in case of doubt and instead test the situation in the protest room
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Re: Savage #1 Race #1 Mac Jiel P11

Postby jiel » 12 Apr 2020 12:04

TY Harald.
TY Mac to have trusted me in doing 360 on the water. I agree also to not do 360 if you have a doubt. Some skippers are very fast to protest when some others, unfortunatly, are fast to do 360 without agreing the protest.
I must add that my protest was not abusive. I hesitated to prostest at the mark but when later, I had to bear away a little, I protested being sure the rule was broken. In my opinion, it is clear that the video is for me : Mac, you took more room than necessary. If you had sailed closer to the mark like NIKgre did, it would have been no risk to hit the Harald boat stern.
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Re: Savage #1 Race #1 Mac Jiel P11

Postby Mac Yavel » 12 Apr 2020 12:32

I understand and i agree
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